Prowna

The first contact

“Just a few things from the basement.”

10 min read

The short answer

Customers cannot estimate volume, so they undercount honestly. Ask for a photo taken from the doorway with a chair or a person in it — that gives you a scale you can price against.

He said a few things from the basement. You brought the smaller truck. It was three trips, or it was one trip and a conversation on the driveway that neither of you enjoyed.

The temptation is to file that under people being optimistic about their own clutter. It is worth resisting, because it leads to the wrong fix. He was not shading the truth. He genuinely does not know how much is down there, and he has no way of finding out.

Nobody thinks in cubic yards

Your price is driven by volume, and volume is the one quantity an ordinary person has never had to estimate. Ask someone how many square feet his kitchen is and he can guess within twenty percent. Ask how many cubic yards of stuff are in his garage and the honest answer is a shrug.

So a booking form that asks him to describe the load is asking for a number he cannot produce. He fills it in anyway, because the form requires it, and the two of you are now working from a figure that was invented under pressure.

Ask for a scale instead

One photo, taken from the doorway, with something ordinary in the frame — a kitchen chair, a doorway, a person standing at the edge. You know how tall a chair is. Once one is in the picture, everything else in that picture has a size.

It costs him ten seconds and it costs you nothing. And it moves the estimate from his guess to your judgment, which is the whole point, because only one of you has loaded a truck before.

The same pile photographed without and with a chair in the frame to give it a scale WHAT HE SENDS could be knee-high, could be chest-high WHAT YOU ASK FOR one chair, and now it has a size the customer is not guessing badly — he has nothing to guess against
The same pile photographed without and with a chair in the frame to give it a scale WHAT HE SENDS no way to tell how big WHAT YOU ASK FOR one chair gives it a size
The same pile twice. Once a chair is in the frame, the pile suddenly has a height.

Say what moves the price besides volume

Two loads of the same size are not the same job, and he does not know that either. Stairs, distance from the truck, whether it has to be taken apart, whether anything needs special handling at the dump — all of it is invisible in a photograph of a pile.

Naming those four or five factors on the page does something quiet and useful: it tells him why two quotes he received differ, without you saying a word about the other company.

Five things to ask for and what each prevents. Our own reasoning, from where these jobs actually go wrong.
What the page asks forWhat it prevents
A photo from the doorway with something familiar in itA description of volume by someone who has never estimated volume.
A second photo of the route out — stairs, doorways, the driveThe surprise that turns a one-hour job into three.
What besides size changes the priceThe suspicion that a higher quote means someone is charging more for the same work.
What you will not take, and where that has to go insteadA wasted trip and an awkward refusal in his hallway.
Whether the quote is fixed once you have seen the photosThe driveway renegotiation, which nobody wins.

What you will not take — and why that is the law, not a mood

Every junk site has a line about what it does not haul, and most read like a mood: no chemicals, no hazardous stuff. Write it as a fact instead, because it is one. The federal environmental agency’s list is short and familiar — “paints, cleaners, oils, batteries, and pesticides can contain hazardous ingredients and require special care when you dispose of them” — and its instruction is equally short: not down the drain, not on the ground, not into the storm sewer, and in many cases not in the regular trash either; they go to a household hazardous waste collection. So the page says exactly that, and does the customer the one favor that costs nothing: “We cannot take paint, oil, batteries, pesticides or chemicals. Your county collects them free on [day] at [place] — here is the link.” The customer who was going to be told no in his hallway has just been told where to go instead, by you, on a Tuesday night.

The refrigerator is the other line, and it is the one that explains a price. A fridge, a freezer or a window unit cannot go on the pile: the refrigerant inside has to be recovered before the appliance is disposed of, and the last person in the chain — the scrap yard, the landfill — is responsible for making sure it was, and has to hold a signed statement naming who recovered it and when. That is why the honest quote has a separate line for the refrigerator, and why the page can say so before the customer wonders: “Fridges and air conditioners cost extra because the refrigerant is recovered before disposal, by law. You can have a copy of the statement.” The competitor whose price for the fridge is zero is telling you where it is going.

Where it goes — the receipt

The second thing the customer quietly worries about is not the price. It is the news story about a pickup that dumped a living room in a creek, with an envelope in it carrying her name. In 2018 the country generated 292 million tons of municipal solid waste; about a third was recycled or composted and half went to landfill. Your job sits inside that arithmetic, and the page can say which side of it you are on without a single adjective: what gets offered for donation first, what gets pulled for the recycler, what goes to the landfill last — and that she gets the receipt. “You receive the disposal receipt with every job: the landfill, the recycler or the charity, by name.” A receipt is a promise with a piece of paper in it, which is the only kind a stranger can check.

That line also answers the question the cheapest bid raises. Landfill fees are a real cost that every honest hauler pays; a price far under everyone else’s in the same town is often a price that has left the landfill out. You do not say that about anyone. You say what you do, and the reader does the arithmetic on the other quote himself.

The customer who cannot send a photo

Not everyone can stand in the doorway with a phone. The executor lives three states away and has a key and a deadline. The landlord has a unit that was left in a hurry and a new tenant on the first. The daughter clearing her father’s house is not going to describe it as a load. These are the largest jobs on the calendar, and the request block above is not written for them — so give them their own paragraph, in their own words. For the estate: “Nothing leaves until you say. We walk it with you, in person or on a video call, we set aside what you point at, and the rest goes in the order you choose.” For the landlord and the property manager: “Unit cleanouts on your date, not ours — we follow the notice you have served, photograph the empty unit, and send one invoice.” The price for these is a range confirmed on site before the first thing is carried out, and the page says that too: the number is fixed before the truck is loaded, never after.

The last line is the one people remember. Everyone in this trade quotes a maximum; almost nobody says out loud that the number can move downwards too.

The short of it

  1. The customer undercounts honestly — nobody thinks in cubic yards. Ask for a photo with a scale in it, not a description.
  2. Name what moves the price besides volume, and how firm the number is once you have seen the photos. No driveway renegotiation, in either direction.
  3. What you will not take is the law, not a mood: paint, oil, batteries, pesticides go to the county collection — link it. The fridge costs extra because the refrigerant is recovered first, by law.
  4. Say where it goes and give the receipt. Half of the country’s waste is landfilled; the cheapest bid may have left the landfill out.
  5. The estate and the landlord cannot send a photo. Give them their own paragraph: nothing leaves until you say, your date, a number fixed before the truck is loaded.

Why there are no prices on this page

What a load costs depends on where you dump it, what the dump charges that month and what you drive, and those differ enough between towns that a figure printed here would be misleading everywhere except one of them. Put your own numbers on your own page. What travels is the method: ask for a scale, not a description.

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